A gracious and deliberate Johnny Depp was joined by “Crock of Gold: A Few Rounds with Shane MacGowan” director and music video/documentary filmmaker Julien Temple on Sunday for a San Sebastian Pageant press convention about their documentary, enjoying in the primary competitors.
“I’ve had an extended, lengthy historical past with Shane,” Depp began out, explaining his involvement as government producer on the movie. “Even earlier than I met him, I used to be fascinated by his language, his means to make these extremely transferring, highly effective songs. He was so prolific whereas on the similar time being on the heels of the satan.”
Temple recalled his early relationship with MacGowan as nicely, which matches even farther again. “We shared the punk second,” referring to the U.Ok.’s thriving 1970s musical motion. “However I additionally really did the primary interview with Shane on a bit loopy half-inch reel to reel video that you just had on your shoulder like a tape recorder.”
Earlier than this documentary, Depp had filmed with MacGowan as nicely, and recounted a narrative of his personal when, on a Friday afternoon in New York Metropolis, he received a name from MacGowan with an pressing request.
“Johnny, do you wanna make a video?”
“What do you imply?”
“Like for me, one of my songs, make a video?”
“I mentioned yeah, I’d be honored,” Depp remembered. The shock got here when MacGowan requested him not solely to look within the video, however to direct as nicely. Extra shocking nonetheless, MacGowan needed it accomplished on the next Monday. So, Depp put collectively a crew, labored out a quick narrative and, after someday of taking pictures and two of modifying, had a completed music video for Shane MacGowan & The Popes’ “That Lady’s Received Me Ingesting” lower than per week later.
Within the video, MacGowan performs a “very dapper, tremendous cool bar proprietor,” Depp recalled. Whereas the actor-director wrote for himself the position of “a trash barrel that simply rolled into the bar. So, I performed me,” he joked.
Whereas Depp and Temple each spoke concerning the frequent difficulties created by working with a famously unreliable protagonist, they concurred that what would possibly on the floor appear an issue, MacGowan’s aversion to interviews, being on time and in some circumstances even displaying up, was really an asset.
“It makes you assume on your toes. Makes you assume of belongings you wouldn’t have in any other case,” Temple identified.
“There are occasions when, as a filmmaker or actor, it’s actually good to seek out your self in a nook and having to battle your means out,” Depp agreed.
“In a bizarre means, he was variety of guiding it (manufacturing). If he’d sat in entrance of a digital camera and accomplished two days of speaking, it wouldn’t be as real and actual as all of the bits of sound we managed to seek out,” mentioned Temple.
MacGowan is one amongst a listing of high-profile, anti-celebrities that Depp is usually grouped with, and the actor was requested about justifying his personal mainstream persona with the anti-establishment beliefs of buddies reminiscent of Keith Richards, or the late Hunter S. Thompson and Marlon Brando.
“First and most essential is to by no means contemplate your self a Hollywood superstar,” he replied, as rapidly as any of his responses on the day got here again. “That’s dying and grotesque.”
“I’ve all the time been drawn to…” he began, earlier than taking the day’s longest pause to decide on his phrases fastidiously, “people who find themselves diligent in remaining themselves.”
He remembered being a 15-year-old child, unable to place down “Worry and Loathing in Las Vegas,” then waking up 15 years later as a houseguest and pricey good friend of the writer.
“(Thompson) was every part to me, like Marlon Brando was every part to me. A father, a good friend, a brother, trainer, mentor. I’ve all the time been considerably interested in (the concept of) what is taken into account regular and the query of ‘What’s regular?’ Individuals say Brando-crazy, Thompson-crazy, Shane MacGowan-crazy, Keith Richards-crazy, him,” he mentioned, pointing to his personal nametag on the desk, “Loopy! Perhaps it’s true, I don’t know. Perhaps you should be, possibly that’s freedom.”
When requested about his opinion on the present political local weather in america – as almost each American invited to talk on the pageant has been prior to now 4 years – with out being dismissive, Depp selected humor to diplomatically specific his personal misgivings concerning the present occupants of the White Home.
“I watch Trump communicate and I snort. He’s… it’s good comedy, nice comedy,” he mentioned tongue in cheek. “Scary comedy,” extra critically.
“I’m not so political in that means,” he went on. “Particularly in phrases of the States… It’s divide and conquer. Persons are in panic; they’re being fed concern. So, I don’t actually give a f— about politics, however I wish to take the folks out of concern and hazard, and I don’t imagine he’s the one to do it.”
In his ultimate rumination of the day, Depp praised the San Sebastian Pageant, rating it among the many greatest international occasions for what he referred to as “actual cinema.”
“This pageant all the time has the least of… let’s name them Hollywood sorts,” he mentioned. “I really feel San Sebastian is really a pageant about cinema, concerning the filmmakers, concerning the individuals who work on them and get these movies made, which is miraculous.”
Johnny Depp, Julien Temple